In the Trenches 589 - Rod Moore & Tyler Stockton Transcript
6/3/2026 8:32:00 AM | MGoBlue Podcasts
Jon Jansen • 00:00
I know everybody is really excited about the return of Rod Moore. It's been two years of struggle of watching a player that was great for this program and will be again could possibly be the only three time captain that Michigan has ever seen. Safety Rod Moore and safety's coach Tyler Stockton join us in just a few moments on In the Trenches.
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Jeff Laurence • 00:23
Welcome to the official podcast of Michigan Football in the Trenches with John Jansen. Presented by Meyer, presenting sponsor of the twenty twenty six Michigan football season and proud supporter of hundreds of local sports teams across the Midwest. Nobody covers Michigan football better than the two time captain, national champion and Michigan athletics hall of honor inductee.
Rod Moore • 00:46
I'm about to lay everything out there on the table, but when you talk about the schedule, there's so much opportunity. Like even if you win, like I'm trying to go twelve, zero, that's what I'm trying to do. But even if you win eleven, ten games, our schedule is so like strong that you still have an opportunity to go anywhere you want to go.
Jeff Laurence • 01:04
This is in the Trenches presented by Meijer. Once again, here's Jon Jansen
Jon Jansen • 01:10
Joined now by Rod Moore who first of all,
Jon Jansen • 01:14
Rod, thanks for joining me. And he might be the first time that anyone has ever been named captain three times at the University of Michigan. Rod, what would that mean to you?
Rod Moore • 01:28
Sure mean everything to me. It meant everything to me when I was a one time, first time captain and then and repeated it for a second year. But it'll be, you know, crazy. Like you said, there's only what, six or five people that's been two time captains.
Jon Jansen • 01:41
Yeah. And so it's a small number of guys.
Rod Moore • 01:44
Yeah.
Jon Jansen • 01:45
And obviously nobody three time captain and your, your situation is unique and so there's a lot that we could talk about. I want to start with this in terms of leadership right in and you were named captain, you were going to be a player, but a couple of years you've been dealing with an injury. How has your leadership role morphed over time?
Rod Moore • 02:09
It's gotten better, like a lot better each and every year. I've learned how to be a leader different ways, especially not being able to be out there with the team. Like you have to be a little bit more vocal rather than, you know, lead by example. Like I can't, I wasn't able to do that for the past two years. Probably only three games, you know, the past two years. So it's just, you know, elevated each and every year, learning how to like deal with certain players. Like as a leader you have to Know how to, you know, come at certain players each and every way, or, you know, manage the team, manage the defense, and just, you know, preaching what the coaches always preach and having that trickle down to everyone else.
Jon Jansen • 02:49
The room, when you get back on the field in the fall, is gonna look completely different than it was, you know, last time you were on the field for that national championship game, certainly when you were elected captain the first time. How has the room changed?
Rod Moore • 03:03
Ooh, the room has changed completely. After the, the year after the Natty, you still had a couple veteran guys like Makari and Q, which, you know, it kind of helped when I was out. And then last year you had guys kind of not really playing their first snaps, but playing their first time, like starting the whole year. So, you know, this year I think we're a lot better as far as veteran wise. Like, you got Chris and me and Mason, even Jo. Like, those guys took these past two years to learn the game. And it's like a complete difference as far as, like, being able to look to my right or left in the meetings or even out there to understand, like, okay, this guy understands what he's doing. He'll be on the same level as I am. Like, Chris, Chris Bracy. That kid's gonna be real good. He's really good.
Jon Jansen • 03:49
You played three games last year. How. How special was it to be out there for you?
Rod Moore • 03:56
It was super special. Where did we start? At Nebraska. That was the first game back. I only played, what, nine plays? Nine plays. But it was like I felt. Felt alive again. Like, this was. This is the thing that I do. I've been doing this since I was in first grade. And, you know, that year of twenty four, that was my first time ever sitting out a whole year of my life of any sport. And it was kind of hard. But you want to be grateful for the game of football and, like, the grind and the strain of it. Sometimes before you kind of take it for granted and be like, ah, this is. This is hard. But you miss doing that type of stuff and being out there with the guys, especially being at the big house. The second game against Wisconsin, like, that was like, wow. I don't. I couldn't. Being out and then coming back, I forgot how it felt to play in the big house. And it was just like, surreal moment.
Jon Jansen • 04:48
Again, you alluded to it a little bit. I mean, it's, it's. And I had a situation when I was in the league where I was out for an entire year. How have you handled with it emotionally, mentally? Because you Mentioned, hey, you're back on the field for three games, and, I mean, you felt alive again. How have you handled all the downtime,
Rod Moore • 05:08
shoot, talking to people a lot, like, understanding, really just control what you can control. Because at the end of the day, if you sit there and get mad and dwell on, you know, your situation, it's not going to get better. So you just gotta stay positive. And really, like, especially because after USC, when I had to sit out again, I kind of really just knew it was a smarter decision rather than like, kind of getting frustrated at the process, like, I wasn't ready. So you just got to understand that I wasn't ready and just wait till my time comes to be ready again.
Jon Jansen • 05:42
The old saying, and you kind of alluded to it like, you don't know what you have until it's gone. And you mentioned being alive back out on the field. Is it possible for you to be able to impart how important every single practice is, every single game, on the young guys who haven't yet experienced what it's like when the game is taken away from you for a period of time?
Rod Moore • 06:04
Bro, they don't understand. Like, we can't do it again. Like, a lot of people don't understand. It's hard for me to put it in words, the feeling that you feel, because, like, there's been times where I was sitting there, like, would I ever even play football again? Just because of the journey that I went through with my knee? And so it's so hard to explain to them, but when I, When I speak to it, you could tell. They understand and listen, like, okay, he's actually serious. Because some of them never dealt with injuries. You know, some of them coming straight from high school thinking that it's about to be peaches and cream in college, and it's not. So, you know.
Jon Jansen • 06:37
So I guess the logical question now, before I talk about how you're able to get another year of eligibility, is, how are you feeling now?
Rod Moore • 06:45
I'm feeling the best I felt since march twenty seventh, twenty twenty four. That's the exact day I tore my acl. But I'm feeling great. Took three surgeries, but now I'm feeling like I haven't felt, you know, since the past two years. I'm out, moving around, running straight line back, feeling fast again, and it's just a matter of, like, you know, getting the coordination back under my feet when you. I didn't really understand this, but when you come back off of an injury like that and go through three surgeries, your body forgets how to do certain things. And there's been times where I was frustrated because I'm like, dang, I used to be able to do this, but now it's like it just takes time to get it back under, you know.
Jon Jansen • 07:26
Is there anything that you have to be aware of when you're back on the field in fall, or anything that you're going to be doing that continues to strengthen your knee, your leg that will help prevent any setbacks?
Rod Moore • 07:44
Yeah. Kind of feel like an old man now, because I used to just be able to go downstairs, put my pads on, stretch and go practice. Now I have to have like at least thirty minutes of like pre have and priming my body to get ready to go rolling so I don't pull a hammy or. Cause I kind of learned myself when you tear your acls, because something like either isn't strong enough at the time that you tear it. Like, especially your quads and your glutes, like, that's kind of the thing that I have to focus on is my glutes, quads, like that posterior chain that helps with decel. And, you know, just staying on top of it every day. Like, I can't lack one day. Cause I've learned through the rehab one day, if I didn't come in and get the treatment that I needed to get, I would feel terrible the next day. So it's just staying on top of it every day.
Jon Jansen • 08:31
You had to go through the process of getting an extra year. The medical red shirt. What's that process like and what not only in terms of just, you know, you gotta file these papers, you gotta do these things, but what's it like watching that process unfold, not knowing what the answer is going to be?
Rod Moore • 08:50
So my situation was kind of different because I never had red shirted, like regular red shirt. I started from my freshman year, went through, and I was told, at first I was told it was. I really didn't have to file for it and that it was going to be easy to go through. But when the time came, they was talking about I had to get a waiver, fill out the waiver. So the process goes to, like, you have to write, I want to say, a paragraph or two, maybe it was a page of like, just everything that went on with your injuries and why you deserve an extra year. And then with me, I was kind of getting a little stressed out because I didn't really get told that I had another year. I want to say it was almost February when it kind of came to my Email that it came through and I would text the compliance guy every day. Did it come through yet? Because I would see a whole bunch of other people like getting there, waiver coming through.
Rod Moore • 09:42
And I'm getting impatient because mine was so easy and straightforward. But it was stressful a little bit. Just because I was like, if I didn't get it, I don't even know if I can. At the time I was coming off of a cleanup surgery. I can't even train for the NFL even if I don't get the year. So I was a little bit stressed about that. But once it came back, I was like, okay, there we go. Now it's one more time.
Jon Jansen • 10:04
There's a push. Whether it's an executive order or it's the NCAA for five to play five. And without any of these exceptions. What's your thoughts on if that were put in place and a guy like yourself wouldn't have that opportunity for the sixth year? What, what's your opinion on whether or not it's good for college football or not? I mean, I can imagine, you know, your, your thought is, I'd like to have that extra year.
Rod Moore • 10:31
I would love to have an extra year. I think it just really should. I don't think it should be one solid rule. I think it should be dependent on situations. Kind of like mine, for instance. Like, I missed really two years of football. So if you put a five year cap on it and someone misses their last two years and it's like you can't, like there's no other chance for them to do it again. But on the flip side of that, there's like seventh and eighth year, seven years and eight years. I'm one year off. Seven years.
Jon Jansen • 11:00
But yeah, well, I mean, there's seven, eight.
Jon Jansen • 11:02
There's, there's been guys that have been
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in college football for nine years.
Rod Moore • 11:04
And that's crazy a little bit, because what are they, about twenty seven, twenty eight playing against nineteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen year olds? So it's like that. I can see why they want to do that as far as in that aspect of things.
Jon Jansen • 11:19
What's this summer, the entire summer look like for you in the lead up in regards to just being ready for fall camp?
Rod Moore • 11:28
It'll just be june first. We come back off of May, you know, have this discretionary period in May, but I gotta hit it running in June. Like I have to, you know, be full go, being able to participate in all the workouts, which I fully anticipate on doing. But it's just staying healthy, getting healthy, staying Healthy and just dominating the entire summer. And coming into fall camp, day one,
Jon Jansen • 11:50
just going, what's it been like for you to have the coaching change you're going through, applying for this medical red shirt? Coaches can look back a couple of years and see film, but you're building a new relationship. How has that dynamic worked with you?
Rod Moore • 12:05
Honestly, I can say I got lucky because, you know, a lot of coaches don't really go back and look at players that used to be here, like, older players that are coming off injuries. And I could say to this coaching staff, they took the time to really learn who I was, especially Coach Hill. He called me one day out of nowhere. I think it was probably a week after he got here and was just like, I love how you move. And I'm like, dang, you back there watching the twenty three film, he was just telling me how, like, he can't wait to get me back. And to be honest, it's probably been the first time in my career that I felt in my college career that I felt like I had the support and, you know, the needs for a coach to want me healthy. Like, he's exacerbating every option to try to get me healthy and pushing and helping the trainers, just being involved in my rehab rather than, you know, in this world.
Rod Moore • 12:55
It's. If you're not. You're not available, it's like, okay, next guy up. So it's been very special.
Jon Jansen • 13:01
When you look at the season ahead, whether it's the schedule, it could be anything. What excites you most about the twenty twenty six football season?
Rod Moore • 13:11
All of it, to be honest. One start off, it'll probably be me being my last year. Like, I'm about to lay everything out there on the table. But when you talk about a schedule, it's so much opportunity. Like, even if you win, like, I'm trying to go twelve zero. That's what I'm trying to do. But even if you win eleven, ten games, our schedule is so, like, strong that you still have an opportunity to go anywhere you want to go. But as a team, I'm just looking forward to seeing how Bryce has changed, like, going through the spring, the way he's been practicing, and then just seeing how this new team's coming together, the different offense and the different defenses and different players and transfers that we have. I'm just excited to see it, especially the receiving room. It's probably the first time that I've been in Michigan that we have, like, a full, complete receiver room, from the starters to the backups.
Rod Moore • 13:58
That can come in and play in ball still. So I'm just looking forward to that.
Jon Jansen • 14:02
Having the extra year has also provided you an opportunity to do more up on campus. Where are you at in terms of your goals academically and how has it been an advantage to you to be able to have that extra time?
Rod Moore • 14:15
I obviously have my first degree, but I went into grad school in social work. But to be honest, if I knew I was coming back another year, I would have did something like a little bit more meaningful or something I wanted to do, whether that would been business or real estate. But I don't know if I graduate again by the end of this year, but I'll be really close to getting another degree.
Jon Jansen • 14:38
When you look at and you talk to the guys that are playing at the next level and you feeling at the best you felt since the day that you were injured, is that to me it would seem obvious it's still the goal. What's it gonna take to get to that point?
Rod Moore • 14:54
Shoot the hard work that I always put in. You know, seeing those guys there, like, especially will Mikey, like the guys that I played next to still in the league, sitting in the league, doing what they have been doing, that's always motivation to me because, you know, I played with him, played next to him and like, I just want to get there. That's always been my goal since I was in kindergarten, preschool, and it's just right there and I just got to get there, just stay healthy, get there and, you know, produce.
Jon Jansen • 15:24
Well, Rod, thanks for your time. Obviously a lot of prayers that everything goes your way because you've been a great captain here at Michigan. You've been a great player. We want to see all the good things for you, so thanks for joining me.
Rod Moore • 15:35
Appreciate it.
Jon Jansen • 15:36
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Jon Jansen • 16:41
Joined now by the Safeties coach Tyler Stockton. Coach welcome to Ann Arbor.
Jon Jansen • 16:47
Welcome to Michigan Football and we're, we're sure excited to have you here on the podcast.
Jon Jansen • 16:52
What's it like been in Ann Arbor? What's it like because you've got coordinator titles, co coordinator, now you're a position coach. What's it been like for you since
Jon Jansen • 17:02
you've landed in Ann Arbor?
Tyler Stockton • 17:03
I mean, the transition for me and my family has been great. My wife is from the Midwest, so we have a lot of ties here in the Midwest and I've played here when I was a player as well. So I mean it's an awesome place. And I think what makes this place special is all the people that's involved in the program and in the community.
Jon Jansen • 17:23
So you've been, I mentioned already, coordinator,
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co coordinator and I know that everything
Jon Jansen • 17:30
is is a group effort. But what's it like for you going from calling defenses to now be in
Tyler Stockton • 17:36
a position coach really right now in my career, I just want to be around good people, you know, that are very like minded like me, that love the players, want to hold them accountable day in and day out because that's what we're here for, to not only make them better football players, but better men. And realizing that football won't last forever and this is an unbelievable university for them to realize that you can not only play at the highest level, but then you can get an unbelievable degree as well. And that stuff is very important to me.
Jon Jansen • 18:06
So a lot of people are going to look at the resume and go, hmm, Notre Dame player at Notre Dame. Now you're at Michigan. So you've seen and first of all, from a Notre Dame perspective, is it a rivalry? Michigan, Notre Dame?
Tyler Stockton • 18:20
Oh, when I was there at the time, absolutely, I agree.
Jon Jansen • 18:22
And there's some people, well, because they
Jon Jansen • 18:24
don't play every year. How can it be a rivalry? Hey, it's two great, two of the most iconic programs and it is a rivalry. What's it like now being on this side with as being a player we
Jon Jansen • 18:36
all know as players, we're attached to our alma maters.
Jon Jansen • 18:39
What's it like being on this side of the rivalry?
Tyler Stockton • 18:42
I mean, I love it, you know, because like I said, I want to be around good people and Coach Witt is the best head coach in the country. And really for me, obviously I love my time at Notre Dame. But now I'm a part of this university and I'm just fired up to see where we can take this. And hopefully we can get the Notre Dame game back on the schedule as well because I'll be fired up to play mar no different. When I was at Boise State last year and we played Notre Dame too, and that was a game that was special to me, but obviously the guys knew it as well. But I want to get this game back on the schedule.
Jon Jansen • 19:17
It is on the schedule, but I don't think it's on the schedule until like twenty thirty three.
Tyler Stockton • 19:21
Yeah. Oh yeah.
Jon Jansen • 19:22
And we got no idea what's going on in twenty thirty three. So I guess the natural follow up is how does a defensive lineman become a safeties coach?
Tyler Stockton • 19:32
Really the big thing for me was I always wanted to coordinate. So I knew I had to coach the linebackers. And then I really, I was never afraid of a challenge. You know, I was never afraid to be out of my comfort zone. Like my first full time job was at Western Illinois. I was a D line coach. And then I got bumped up to coordinating coaching the Nichols and then I got an opportunity at Ball State to coach the linebackers. I was never afraid of uncertainty if I can do it or not because I believe in my abilities. And the big thing was the people that I've been around believed in me as well. So I knew no matter what position I was going to coach, I was going to crush it.
Jon Jansen • 20:10
What are the biggest challenges of. Because it's not unusual. It's more unusual if you played a position on one side of the ball and then you're coaching a position on the other side. That's not even that strange. But what was the biggest challenge for you of going from D line to linebackers or now coordinator D line linebackers to safeties.
Tyler Stockton • 20:30
It was more just some of the technique stuff. I mean the scheme and all that stuff. I was great because I studied my butt. It was more than just some of the technique stuff. But I was surrounded by so many great back end guys that I picked their brains and did a lot of professional development. And ultimately like I'm a football coach, I can coach whatever position it is. I mean, I'm a football junkie. It don't matter if I'm coaching quarterbacks. Like I'm going to invest and be obsessed with coaching that position.
Jon Jansen • 20:59
So let's talk about the safety position. And there's some guys that you inherited, some guys that have come in, but when you look at the room just as a whole, what do you see,
Tyler Stockton • 21:09
I see a lot of depth in the room and I see a group of guys that truly care about each other and I think that's going to show this season on, you'll see the way the guys play, but really behind the scenes, people will have no idea. The reason they play so hard for each other is because they truly care about each other. They truly love each other by the action, the sacrifices that those guys play with every day in and day out.
Jon Jansen • 21:35
Let's first, let's start off with Rod Moore because I mean, two years ago, right, winning a national championship big time plays throughout the entire season. Then in spring ball, he goes down and it's been a battle to get back. He only had three games last year. He earns the extra year of eligibility. What do you see in Rod Moore? What have you seen on film and what are your expectations moving forward?
Tyler Stockton • 21:57
My expectation of Rod's being one of the best safeties in the country. I mean we're going to fight day in and day out to make sure he is healthy, which he's been doing an unbelievable job. He is far in advance right now where he should be. But I see a guy in Rod that is going to go down at this university as one of the better leaders to ever come here. I mean, I mean Michigan was eighteen ninety eight was the first Big Ten championship victory and Rod could be the first three time captain ever at this university. So that speaks volumes about how much he's invested into this program.
Jon Jansen • 22:33
Yeah, as a two time captain, I'm jealous as hell that he has that opportunity. And how have you seen him? Because we've heard from other, you know, other coaches and talking to Rod over the last couple of years, he has remained involved, first of all is how unique is that for a guy to be, to remain as involved over a two year stretch where he's not able to do what he really wants to do and that's play on the field. But to be able to coach guys, how have you seen him interact with the other guys in the room?
Tyler Stockton • 23:03
I mean the big thing for me is you can tell Rod loves football. People who don't love football and go through what he's gone through kind of start thinking about what's next in my life or is it time to stop playing football? Like he would not be here if he doesn't truly love the game. And like you said, like he's a coach on the field. But what he's done an amazing job of this off season is in the meeting rooms. I mean he's bringing guys in for extra work, not even me having to tell the guys to come. He's the one that's spearheading all of that. So, I mean, he does an unbelievable job of my room just getting the younger guys better. And he's not afraid. He wants the group to be as best as they can. So he's constantly meeting with the guys, doing extra work with the guys. Has been awesome to have him.
Jon Jansen • 23:46
When I look in your room, I see a lot of different skill sets and I see a lot of different body types. And it may be on as the roster sets up here this year, maybe the widest variety of body types. How do you look at players and say, well, we need you to be strong, we need you to be free, we need you to be a lot of different things. And how do you find out what guys do best and then put them into where you need them to be?
Tyler Stockton • 24:14
Most importantly, we're looking for really good football players. And then we're kind of like you said, we're like a basketball team. We got some guys who are like point guard sides who are under five, ten. Then we got a center like Mason Curtis who's six five. So I mean, every single one of those guys, even though they're different sizes, have a unique skill set. But really all those guys can play the free or the strong position as well, because that's why they came here to Michigan, because they're damn good football players.
Jon Jansen • 24:43
What have you learned about Mason Curtis?
Tyler Stockton • 24:45
I learned that Mason is, like you said, he's a football guy as well. And I think the unique thing about Mason is he came in here, he's played so many different positions since he's been at Michigan. And I think his love for the game is unmatched. And that's why you see that he came in as an edge. He played a little bit of a wide receiver. Now he's finally found a home at safety. And I see a guy this year that's going to have a big year for us.
Jon Jansen • 25:12
So there's, you know, in that position, right? You're one of the positions that has taken on some transfers. And I think a lot of people are wondering, okay, what do we have in the Memphis transfer in Chris Bracy? What did. What attracted you to him to bring him in and what does he provide the program?
Tyler Stockton • 25:29
I mean, Chris has played close to seven hundred over seven hundred snaps at Memphis. And Chris is a football guy, you know, I mean, he wasn't a guy who's highly recruited or anything. He has A chip on his shoulder. So he knows that his whole objective is to prove to the country that he can be one of the best safeties in the country. I've been so impressed with Bracy. I know his teammates have been impressed with him as well. And I'm expecting big things from him this year as well.
Jon Jansen • 25:57
What's involved in a position change? Because Taylor Tatum, obviously, we saw him a little bit, not much last year, but he was at Oklahoma as a running back. Now he comes over here, he's in your room.
Jon Jansen • 26:08
What what's involved in the position
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change and where is he at? What's he bring to the team?
Tyler Stockton • 26:13
The first thing is what's. What's best for the team. And we thought that Taylor Tatum had a unique skill set from an explosive standpoint, a ball skill standpoint, because he's also a baseball player as well. Like, he's just scratching the surface. I mean, this was his first time ever backpedaling, you know, so it fires me up because you got like a piece of clay that you can just fine tune and make him into a great player. And if he does a good job, just getting better every single day. I mean, the first time he took a rep, he lost. Like, who wouldn't if you never done it? Then all of a sudden, towards the end of Spring bowl, he's going against our better wide receivers, competing his tail off.
Jon Jansen • 26:51
How big of a challenge is it to go from running back to safety?
Tyler Stockton • 26:57
The physicality piece is there. It's more of some of the technique stuff that he's not used to. He's always used to going forward. Now he's got to work on going backwards at times. But the cool thing, what you'll see from him is when he goes forward, he's explosive, and it's exciting to see that.
Jon Jansen • 27:13
Tell us a little bit more about some of the guys in your room, maybe some of the guys that. Is there anybody else that has stood out to you? And you know, what have you learned about some of those individuals? Whether it was in winter conditioning, spring ball, or the beginning now of summer conditioning.
Tyler Stockton • 27:27
The person that probably impressed the most was Jordan Young. And I think obviously he played around one hundred fifty snaps last year as a young player, but he is. He's up there with those guys competing for starting position. And then we got two young guys as well in Jordan Deck and Ernest Nunley that have came in as early enrollees and competed her tail off every single day. So, I mean, I really like the room. Kainoa Winston, he Redshirted last year. He's a kid that ran a ten, four, ten, five out of high school. So I mean we got a competitive group and then we got guys who are unsung heroes with our walk ons like Nico, and Max Reyes who come in every single day and compete their tail off too.
Jon Jansen • 28:10
Where does this need what, what will this group be doing throughout summer and what are they, what do you need to see from them when you start fall camp?
Tyler Stockton • 28:19
So this, this summer, they've already mapped out what they're going to do every single day outside of this building. Whether that's getting extra footwork in, extra film study in or getting extra meals in with each other just to bring this group closer and closer. And then as a whole, we just got to be really good when fall camp hits, fine tuning the defense and fine tuning all the little things and they've done an unbelievable job in Springbo. Now we just got to take the next step.
Jon Jansen • 28:46
Well, Coach, I appreciate your time and we'll look forward to catching up with you again.
Tyler Stockton • 28:50
Appreciate it. Thank you.
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Jon Jansen • 28:58
Well, thanks to both Rod and Coach Stockton. Really excited about the secondary. A couple of weeks ago we talked about the corner position and the table talent that's there and the safety position. There's a lot of guys that are going to contribute, but the one that we want to see the most and maybe, maybe the, the fan favorite is going to be Rod Moore and his return to this lineup. So wishing him all the best. As we always do, we're excited about fall camp. It's coming right around the corner. Enjoy your summer. Keep it locked in here on in the Trenches.
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Jeff Laurence • 29:31
Thanks for listening to this edition of in the Trenches with Jon Jansen, presented by Meijer, presenting sponsor of the twenty Michigan football season and proud supporter of hundreds of local sports teams across the Midwest. In the Trenches is part of our Michigan Athletics Podcast network, M GO Blue Podcasts. The preceding is a Learfield presentation of the Michigan Sports Network.
